I just reread above where you said OK rv park is on site. We would probably still need to dry camp because most of my group won't know til next year whether they can make it, and rv spots might be booked up. Some of the people in my group are realtors, mortgage brokers, business owners, and are going day by day with todays economy. I also need to talk to some of my friends and find out where they camped near the trails in the past.
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